<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6475001737499156155</id><updated>2012-01-15T19:10:48.280-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Fundie Watch</title><subtitle type='html'>Keeping an Eye on the Religious Right</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>The Watcher</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13760421935968035169</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kw3-ctwQt9E/SwL91cESgBI/AAAAAAAAAAM/Wn2nx8LphRw/s1600-R/libertybell.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>12</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6475001737499156155.post-9114544029967080959</id><published>2010-02-10T10:22:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-02-10T10:22:18.388-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Door to Door Atheists Bother Mormons</title><content type='html'>This pretty much sums up my feelings on fundies. You can do whatever you want with your religion, as long as you don't bother the rest of us!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/CMXD4iwklcI&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/CMXD4iwklcI&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6475001737499156155-9114544029967080959?l=fundie-watch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/feeds/9114544029967080959/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6475001737499156155&amp;postID=9114544029967080959&amp;isPopup=true' title='11 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/9114544029967080959'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/9114544029967080959'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/2010/02/door-to-door-atheists-bother-mormons.html' title='Door to Door Atheists Bother Mormons'/><author><name>The Watcher</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13760421935968035169</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kw3-ctwQt9E/SwL91cESgBI/AAAAAAAAAAM/Wn2nx8LphRw/s1600-R/libertybell.gif'/></author><thr:total>11</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6475001737499156155.post-3522924490486198475</id><published>2010-01-24T11:37:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-24T11:40:25.427-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The Rest of the Agenda</title><content type='html'>Okay, so we got waylaid by the Haiti situation last week. I do hope you can still scrounge up some change do donate to Haiti if you haven't already. The relief efforts are ongoing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the meantime, we return to our list of Mission America's Top Ten Ways to Make Kids &lt;strike&gt;Fundies&lt;/strike&gt; Truly Safe in 2010.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;4. We must pledge to overhaul the schools we are paying for. Let’s start sending our children to Christian schools, conservative charter schools, or begin home schooling them, while we simultaneously evict our local NEA-backed public school boards and replace them with smart soccer moms and dads who have true family values.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;This shows me two things. #1, that Linda Harvey thinks what's going on in public schools is far, far worse than it really is, and #2, that she doesn't understand or accept that some people may actually SUPPORT their kids learning things she disagrees with. I could just as easily write a piece detailing why we need to pull our kids out of the fundie Jesus-preachin', anti-evolution public schools in rural Louisiana and start sending them to schools run by people with REAL values, like Richard Dawkins.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Let’s get the radicals out of our taxpayer- funded classrooms... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;See? Linda and I found something we agree on! Now, just what is a "radical?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;and refuse to vote for one more levy guaranteeing the same old anti-Christian, socialist, Darwinist, hyper-sexualized, and phony “green” school curricula.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Linda, have you ever set foot in a public school? Do you have any idea what you're talking about, or are you just making shit up to get angry about?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And really, "phony 'green'"? Do you oppose teaching environmental science? Yeah, of course you do. You've never been encumbered by the truth, why should anyone else be?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;3. As responsible stewards, we must continue to demand that U.S. Department of Education ‘safe schools’ czar Kevin Jennings be fired for his lack of experience plus his known radical, sexually corrupt ideology.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;You can "demand" all you want, but it's not your call. Were you equally as peeved about Harriet Miers being nominated to the Supreme Court despite being woefully underqualified? No, I suspect not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But you don't like Kevin Jennings, for his "radical, sexually corrupt ideology," (teaching that being a gay teen is OK) so the rules are different for him. Oh, yes, I know, he's "inexperienced," right? I guess anybody can earn degrees from Harvard, Columbia, and NYU, found a national advocacy organization, chair a state executive committee, work as a teacher for ten years (including serving as department chair), write six books, and win multiple national awards for excellence in teaching and advocacy. &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Jennings"&gt;(Cite)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Let’s also eject Obama’s Chicago crony, DOE Secretary Arne Duncan, and all public officials whose track records attest to “poor education as usual” policies. Where’s the commitment to genuine child safety?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;You're never going to find it if you willfully ignore it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Let’s make plans to fire Barack Obama at least by 2012, too, while we are at it, before he does any more damage to the next generation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;And that damage would be...?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Look, I'm not saying Obama's perfect. I know he's not. You know it, and so does he. I'm just saying you don't get to lob serious insults against somebody and just expect us all to nod our heads in agreement like sheep. You want to bash people? Fine, but you better be prepared to back it up. Here, Linda doesn't even seem interested in &lt;i&gt;trying&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;2. Get all pro-homosexual and pro-promiscuity programs, literature, teachers, and counselors out of every school now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Well, I'm sure all the gay students--who will still be gay even in spite of your best efforts--would really appreciate that; you taking away their entire support system because you have some emotion-based, unsupported belief that it's doing more harm than good. Well, except for that part pro-promiscuity programs. Nobody would miss those, and nobody will notice when they're gone, because they don't exist in the first place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Remove “gay” clubs, Planned Parenthood at health fairs, and GLSEN- PFLAG- SIECUS activists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;"Remove" them? Whoa, this is starting to sound a bit Mafioso, Linda. Are you on a terrorist watch list yet?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Cease all condom demonstrations, abortion referrals, on-site birth control dispensing, sexual orientation affirmation, and messing with children’s hearts, minds and bodies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yeah, really, schools. Stop giving your students age-appropriate advice about services that are perfectly legal and often medically or psychologically necessary. Linda Harvey doesn't like it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Demand that schools uphold the traditional value of heterosexual identities...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Whether they're scientifically accurate or not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;...teach abstinence- until- marriage...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yay, unconstitutional religious education! That'll fix all your problems!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Someone remind me to do a post on this abstinence-until-marriage crap soon. I have some thoughts that I've been wanting to write about for quite some time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;...and celebrate male/ female gender differences.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;That's the worst one yet. I mean, even assuming Gender Identity Disorder really was all made up (like the fundies want us to think), what is the benefit of reaffirming rigid, pointless, outdated gender roles?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;1. Allow—no, &lt;i&gt;welcome&lt;/i&gt;-- Christianity back into the American public square...in schools, in community groups, in city council meetings, in the Senate, on city streets, in the courthouse square, in the media, in college lectures.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;And all other religions be damned! How we're supposed to do this is anybody's guess, but pissing all over the Constitution would apparently be a good start.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Linda, like most fundies, believes that a small minority is holding back the floodgates of Good Christians (TM) who actively support and encourage the idea of a theocracy. In fact, I'd say most of our elected officials and college professors actually understand what the First Amendment is all about and support it. Why don't you, Linda?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Laugh at the ACLU.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;You fundies do that already, and yet, they still stand for the Constitution and they still keep winning cases. And in fact, the ACLU supports Christians when those Christians are legally right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Elect judges who agree.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Elect judges who don't like the First Amendment too? Wow, I just had a vision of Linda Harvey-land, and it made me shudder.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Don’t elect presidents who think we are no longer a Christian nation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Oh, haha. Subtle slap at Obama. For the record his &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_say_we_are_no_longer.html"&gt;actual quote&lt;/a&gt; was:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation – at least, not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;But I think we've long established that Linda Harvey lives a life unencumbered by such things as "facts" and "reality." &lt;span style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Let’s refuse to leave our children an inheritance of American rubble. Instead, let our New Year’s resolution and fervent prayer be to give our children an America that is the best it can be.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Well, I think we're all doing that, Linda. It's just that some of us disagree on exactly what that entails.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6475001737499156155-3522924490486198475?l=fundie-watch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/feeds/3522924490486198475/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6475001737499156155&amp;postID=3522924490486198475&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/3522924490486198475'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/3522924490486198475'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/2010/01/rest-of-agenda.html' title='The Rest of the Agenda'/><author><name>The Watcher</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13760421935968035169</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kw3-ctwQt9E/SwL91cESgBI/AAAAAAAAAAM/Wn2nx8LphRw/s1600-R/libertybell.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6475001737499156155.post-8096019992746608358</id><published>2010-01-15T14:25:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-15T14:27:52.398-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Help for Victims of the Haitian Earthquake</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2010/01/13/PH2010011301299.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="219" src="http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2010/01/13/PH2010011301299.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;The biggest news story of the last week was the disastrous magnitude-7 earthquake that hit Haiti on Tuesday. There's no sense in beating around the bush: it's bad down there, and it's getting worse. The death toll is in the tens of thousands and rising. Resources are scarce and aren't easily distributed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;For those of us watching on TV in the comfort of our living rooms, it seems a whole world away. Some of you are in Europe, where, by distance, it really is nearly a world away. The rest of us simply have no idea what it's like to live in abject poverty your entire life, and then have the nothing you thought you had taken away in the space of thirty seconds.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;I wish I had a magic bullet to make it all go away, or to turn the clock back before the quake hit. But of course, I can't do those things. In my present situation, I can't even aid in the relief efforts. Chances are, you're not in a position to drop everything and leave home to help either, but I know that at least some of you would if you could.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;If you want to help, you can donate, though. Donate anything you can: money, food, water, or clothing are obvious necessities, but there's really nothing you can send that isn't useful. Some less conventional ideas that you may not think of include toiletries (soap, shampoo, toothbrushes, toothpaste), first aid kits (bandages, gauze, alcohol, anti-bacterial cream), batteries, flashlights, and radios (two-way and broadcast).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;Of course, the easiest and most versatile item you can donate is money. It's probably the most wanted item as well. Here are a few places you can go to to donate. Excuse any redundancies; there's a lot of overlap.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://colbertnation.com/"&gt;The Colbert Report&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/"&gt;The White House&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://american.redcross.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ntld_main&amp;amp;s_src=RSG000000000&amp;amp;s_subsrc=RCO_FrontPagePanel"&gt;The Red Cross&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;You can also donate through your nearest &lt;a href="http://coinstar.com/us/html/A2"&gt;CoinStar&lt;/a&gt; machine (usually found in supermarkets). When you donate, select the Red Cross.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;Also, as Stephen Colbert notes, there are a couple of ways to donate through your cell phone, courtesy of the musician &lt;a href="http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1629824/20100115/jean_wyclef.jhtml"&gt;Wyclef Jean and Yele Haiti&lt;/a&gt; (text "Yele" to 501501).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;Thanks for reading, and for caring.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6475001737499156155-8096019992746608358?l=fundie-watch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/feeds/8096019992746608358/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6475001737499156155&amp;postID=8096019992746608358&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/8096019992746608358'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/8096019992746608358'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/2010/01/help-for-victims-of-haitian-earthquake.html' title='Help for Victims of the Haitian Earthquake'/><author><name>The Watcher</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13760421935968035169</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kw3-ctwQt9E/SwL91cESgBI/AAAAAAAAAAM/Wn2nx8LphRw/s1600-R/libertybell.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6475001737499156155.post-5643570465442939902</id><published>2010-01-09T21:47:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-09T21:47:57.253-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Making Kids Safe</title><content type='html'>You think your kid is safe? Oh, boy have I got news for you! They're not! They're not safe from terrorism, they're not safe from perverts in windowless white vans, but most of all, they're not safe from the enviro-fascist, homo-liberal, baby-killing, porn-producing left-wing agenda! Or so says Linda Harvey from &lt;a href="http://www.missionamerica.com/agenda.php?articlenum=103"&gt;Mission: America.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I present to you, Linda's "Top 10 Ways to Make Kids Truly Safe in 2010!" I have a lot to say on the matter, so I'll split it into two. Today we'll go through 10-5. Next week, I'll give you 5-1.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;10. Let’s teach our children to refrain from honoring oppressive, liberty-denying practices and beliefs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Like the fundie agenda? Yeah, you wish that's where she was going.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Children should be civil to all, but refuse to be manipulated into “respecting” Islam, praying to Allah, etc., no matter how many points it counts on the social studies/diversity unit test&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;So let me get this straight: Linda is afraid of liberals "taking away the freedom" of our children to act like dicks to Muslims? So, can we be nice to Buddhists, Jainists, Sikhs, Hindus, Zoroastrians, and Shintoists, or do we have to be civilly disrespectful to them too?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't know anyone who thinks that respecting Islam entails teaching kids to pray to Allah (the Arabic word for "God," used by adherents of any monotheistic religion who speak Arabic!). Usually, respecting Islam involves things like leaving Muslims alone to pray in peace, not trying to "witness" to them, and not telling them that the way they dress is wrong and needs to be changed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;They should urge every girl they know wearing a hijab to remove it and no longer submit to a system of subtle bondage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Like, well, that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;They should share the Gospel of Jesus Christ deliberately with every Muslim they know— and make sure these lost kids know that Christians believe in a loving God who gives us free will.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Muslim women HAVE free will, numbnuts. The fact that they choose to exercise it in a different manner than you do A) does not automatically make them wrong and B) is none of your fucking business.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Would you like it if Muslim women came around telling you that your religion was wrong?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;9. Our homes should be safe havens. That means no carbon monitors...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;What? No "carbon monitors?" What are "carbon monitors?" You mean carbon monoxide detectors? That's asinine, Linda, even for a fundie. Why would you &lt;b&gt;not &lt;/b&gt;want to know if there are dangerous levels of poisonous gas in your house?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;...parenting or end-of-life counselors under ObamaCare...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Linda Harvey prefers that dying people not have the completely optional choice to discuss end-of-life issues with a qualified professional.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;...home school checks...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yep! I should be allowed to teach my kid anything I want, or nothing at all, for their entire lives! Cuz God knows, every decision a parent makes is the right one!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;...or community organizers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Oh shut up, you moron. You obviously don't even know what a community organizer is. (Nor do you seem to know what "freedom" is, considering you want to eliminate other people's livelihoods based on the fact that, in your uninformed opinion, you don't like them.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We should be able to hear truly free speech and porn-free programming on radio and TV stations...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;How can something be "truly free" and at the same time, restricted? &lt;b&gt;Based on its content?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And really, is porn on TV and radio (???) a real problem, or is it made up by fundies so they can have something to be angry about?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;...and neither we nor our children should ever be tempted to have our mortgages paid for us through government hand-outs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;So, Linda, when you're out of work because the economy goes south (or no one is interested in supporting your lunatic rantings), you can just curl up and starve to death. I'm sure you'll be pleased to do it, too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;8. Our kids should not have to face the limited options and reduced quality of life in a once-great country burdened with crushing debt. They should not have to face fifty percent or higher taxes, few employment options, and life in a corrupt and increasingly vulnerable nation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Oh, okay, Linda. Why don't you outline YOUR economic stimulus plan, since you seem to know how to run things so well. Remember, the last two required the bipartisan efforts of hundreds of lawmakers and thousands of research assistants, sworn testimony by experts in economics, finance professionals, and budget officers from every department, all of whom worked early in the morning until late into the night, and they came together only after months of dedicated cooperation between both houses and the Executive branch.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I'm sure whatever you came up sitting on your ass in front of the computer with will be much better.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Let’s hold elected officials responsible for reckless spending, pay-offs and pork, by removing them from power at the earliest opportunity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I love this argument. It's possibly the most ignorant, shortsighted, wrongheaded, and just plain stupid political statement you can make. It's become a rallying cry for the Right, because it's code for "vote out the liberals." Why we need code, I have no idea, but the Left never argues for voting every member out. Probably because it's an asinine strategy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For one thing, it will never happen. For another, you'd just end up with 535 freshman representatives who have no idea what they're doing and no guarantee they'll be any less corrupt or any more interested in what the fundies want than the last people. How is that better?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;7. Children should not be endangered personally by sexually transmitted diseases allowed to rage unchecked through our under-30 population because of political correctness. They should no longer be told the outright lies that life-threatening and/or debilitating infections can be managed through either latex or life-long, expensive drug therapy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&amp;nbsp;"Outright lies?" So, then HAART treatments &lt;i&gt;don't&lt;/i&gt; reduce the effects of HIV? Condoms &lt;i&gt;don't&lt;/i&gt; protect against STI transmission? If Linda can state with such vehemence that these medical axioms are "lies" then it should be easy to provide legitimate, unbiased citations to back her up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Right, Linda? We're all waiting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Let’s not leave them with rampant infertility due to “everyone’s” reproductive damage. We need to establish a public health system that deals with reality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;What would you know about reality? You don't seem to spend much time there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;6. Intrusive, low- quality and high- cost health care delivery should not be the legacy we leave our children. We should recognize that America has the greatest health care system in the world, that it truly needs little reform, except to recapture personal responsibility for both cost and options.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;America has the greatest health care system in the world! And I know this because I live here! Oh, sure, I haven't studied the subject in depth, but I know that America is God's chosen land, and if it's in America, it's great! Facts? Data? Expert analysis? Who needs that crap? I have jingoism and that's good enough for me!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, the World Health Organization (which DOES have experts, facts, and analysis) gave &lt;a href="http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html"&gt;France&lt;/a&gt; the nod in 2000.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Let’s refuse to put Washington, DC in charge of your son’s and daughter’s physical well-being.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yeah, last I heard, there was no provision in the health care bill for sending sick or injured people to politicians. I'm pretty sure doctors would still be handling medical care, as the bill only covers who will be paying for what.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what do I know, I'm just a dumb liberal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;5. Let’s give our children some true leadership choices. Let’s leave them examples like Sarah Palin, Jim DeMint, Mike Pence. Let’s stop propping up a failed and compromised GOP, and let’s make sure the Democratic/Socialist party fades into oblivion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yeah, we'd be way better with Sarah Palin, you betcha! I like Jim DeMint, too, for whenever I need a crucial appointment stalled so that bad things happen that we can blame on Obama.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't know much about Mike Pence, but since Linda Harvey likes him, he's probably an idiot.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's it for right now. But stay tuned next week, when we get really mired in the stupid. It only goes downhill from here. I know I can't wait!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6475001737499156155-5643570465442939902?l=fundie-watch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/feeds/5643570465442939902/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6475001737499156155&amp;postID=5643570465442939902&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/5643570465442939902'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/5643570465442939902'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/2010/01/making-kids-safe.html' title='Making Kids Safe'/><author><name>The Watcher</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13760421935968035169</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kw3-ctwQt9E/SwL91cESgBI/AAAAAAAAAAM/Wn2nx8LphRw/s1600-R/libertybell.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6475001737499156155.post-4428169527796737347</id><published>2009-12-30T21:44:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-30T21:47:33.039-08:00</updated><title type='text'>NY Assembly Member Thinks Racial Profiling is A-OK</title><content type='html'>It must really suck to be a terrorist; you can't even catch a break on Christmas. For those Scrooges at Al Qaeda, Christmas is "just another work day." Which means if you're Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab, you have to pack up your things, stuff gunpowder down your jockeys, and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlines_Flight_253"&gt;hop a plane trying to blow it up&lt;/a&gt;. If you fail, you end up arrested and tried for 290 counts of attempted murder. If you succeed, you end up as charred mush smeared across the tarmac. Even Bob Cratchit never had such a lousy Christmas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Luckily, none of that came to pass. All 290 passengers and crew escaped safely and Mutallab is in custody. Naturally, this brought the pols and pundits out of the woodwork, pointing fingers, lobbing accusations, and in general, making everybody's holiday season a little more political and a lot less cheery.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The worst of these was New York State Assemblyman Dov Hikind, who on Tuesday, &lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/29/dov-hikind-ny-assemblyman_n_406376.html"&gt;called for a bill allowing racial profiling&lt;/a&gt; for random police searches. Hikind has sung this song before, but in the wake of the Christmas bombing attempt, he believes he has a taller soapbox from which to shout. Oh, Dov, how misguided art thou? Let me count the ways.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;1) He Has a Short Cultural Memory&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For starters, let's go with the simplest one: Dov Hikind is a Jew. And not just any Jew, but an Orthodox Jew. He lives in and represents the Orthodox enclave of Borough Park, Brooklyn, supports Jewish causes, and takes nearly every one of his political positions based on his religion and ethnicity. This guy basically eats, sleeps, and breathes Judaism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, I have nothing against the Hebrew people, or being extremely involved in Jewish culture; I'm ethnically part Jewish myself. But you would think that a guy who's that wrapped up in his Semitic roots might be &lt;a href="http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-4/holocaust-remnants2.GIF"&gt;a little more sympathetic&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/camp_children1.jpg"&gt;to people&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-3/Poland-Holocaust_BIG.GIF"&gt;being discriminated against&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.themysticalpen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/holocaust.jpg"&gt;based on their ethnicity!&lt;/a&gt; You remember that, Dov? You remember which people those were?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, sure, Dov isn't asking for anyone to be rounded up and hauled off to slaughter, of course. And I don't mean to diminish the suffering of the Holocaust victims by equating him with Hitler. He's not there yet, and I hope, being an educated, erudite, scholarly gentleman, that he never will be. You see, Dov only wants &lt;i&gt;a little&lt;/i&gt; discrimination. Not death camps, just, y'know, some automatic indicia of guilt. It doesn't even have to have any legal effect. You know, &lt;a href="http://www.ushmm.org/holocaust/image.jpg"&gt;like this.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And yes, I know this entire section was a giant Godwin. But give me a break; if there was ever a justified Godwin, this is it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;2) His Attacks on Muslims are Unwarranted&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dov Hikind supports racial profiling based on the fact that "it would work far more effectively to combat terrorism than the current policy, instituted in 2004, which uses random bag searches." &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dov_Hikind#Views_on_issues"&gt;(Cite from Wikipedia)&lt;/a&gt; Well, maybe, except that we haven't had any terrorist bombings on US soil since &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing"&gt;Oklahoma City&lt;/a&gt;, which was committed by two white guys.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, sure, we've had shootings, yes. There was the one in &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binghamton_shooting"&gt;Binghamton, NY&lt;/a&gt; (committed by an Asian), &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VT_shooting"&gt;Virginia Tech&lt;/a&gt; (another Asian), and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre"&gt;Columbine&lt;/a&gt;, committed by two other white guys. Don't forget the Omaha, NE &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omaha_mall_shooting"&gt;shooting at Westroads Mall&lt;/a&gt;, perpetrated by--are you ready?--yet another white guy!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, wait, I know what you're thinking. The Watcher is conveniently ignoring the incident at Ft. Hood, right? That was a Muslim, wasn't it? Yeah, fine, you got one. Except he didn't need to be racially profiled, because he had a long &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nidal_Hassan#Prior_investigations"&gt;history&lt;/a&gt; of psychotic behavior: calls and e-mails to Al-Qaeda and various terrorist operatives, verbal threats against the government, and internet postings &lt;b&gt;signed with his real name,&lt;/b&gt; all of which the government was aware of and summarily ignored.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And then, the day after, there was &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Orlando_shooting"&gt;another one&lt;/a&gt; committed by a Hispanic guy. Huh, I guess the only people we can let walk around without randomly profiling as terrorists are Black! &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakewood_police_officer_shooting"&gt;Oh, no, wait.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;3. Mutallab Wouldn't Have Been Profiled&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dov Hikind &lt;strike&gt;likes&lt;/strike&gt; supports racially profiling terror suspects because, well, here are &lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/29/dov-hikind-ny-assemblyman_n_406376.html"&gt;his own words:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;"We can go after 80-year-old men and women getting on a plane. But the reality is that you look at the profile of what terrorists have looked like, where they come from and so on and it just makes sense to use that along with other things."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yes, Dov, let's look at the profile, shall we? &lt;a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2039865.ece"&gt;Here's one&lt;/a&gt; created by psychologist Dr. Mark Sageman. My comments, interspersed, come from &lt;a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/6896128/Detroit-terror-attack-profile-of-Umar-Farouk-Abdul-Mutallab.html"&gt;this newspaper article&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdulfarouk_Umar_Muttalab"&gt;his wiki page&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;90 per cent came from a  relatively stable, secure background.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Mutallab had that, but he left and eventually stopped speaking to them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Three quarters were from middle-class or upper-class families, two thirds went to college and two thirds were professionals or semi-professionals, often engineers, physicians, architects or scientists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;He did come from a wealthy family, and he did graduate from college. However, he dropped out of his MBA program and never worked as a professional anything. (For those of you keeping score, thus far, the profile of a terrorist could include me and possibly you!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The average age for making  an active commitment to violent jihad was 26.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;D'oh! Our boy is 23. I know it's only a few years, but it's off. Also the "age for making an active commitment" is probably a few years before a guy would be sent on an actual attack, so it could be a little wider than 3.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;[T]hree quarters of the  terrorists were married, most of them with children.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Not at all. Mutallab had no interest in women. He never got married or had kids.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;“Because they were the best and brightest,  they were sent abroad to study. They came from moderately religious, caring,  middle-class families. They spoke three, four, five, six languages."  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;This part is more or less true, if broad. Mutallab probably spoke one or two Nigerian dialects, English, and Arabic that he learned when he spent time in Yemen and Dubai.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Unlike the lone serial killer, these men functioned well in groups. Indeed  they depended, isolated as they were in a foreign country, on a close circle  of friends who reinforced and legitimised their beliefs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;None of that fits our guy at all. Though he's not socially inept, he's mostly a loner who spent his free time praying and creeping out everyone around him. He couldn't find many people who shared his radical views.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;“When you look at the global Salafi jihad, you have three waves. The first  were the companions of bin Laden, the characters in Afghanistan in the  1980s,” [Dr. Mark Sageman] said. “The second, on whom my 2003 research was based, were the  best and the brightest from the Middle East. Those are the guys who became  radicalised in the West. Many of them are engineers and physicians."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;“And the third are what people call the home-grown, these are the guys who are  second or third generation in the West, and they are less well-educated.  Their average age is about 19 or 20, and there are more criminal elements  there.”  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;So, no mention of anyone from Nigeria, or Black Africans (which is what racial profiling would be based on!). Group 2 is transplants into Britain, which Mutallab is, but he was brought there by his parents, who had business interests. Dr. Sageman is talking about people who self-transplanted, and would be a lot older than the Mutallab.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Both groups, however, typically experience a sense of dislocation from the  society in which they live and work. Clive Walker, a terrorism specialist  and Professor of Criminal Justice at Leeds University, says that Mohammad  Sidique Khan and his three companions shared a form of “social anomie.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;“It’s a kind of in-between state, a symptom of rejection in many ways. They  feel rejected, but equally they reject the available cultures, both of their  fathers and of the society they find themselves in,” he said. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I'll give that one half points. That describes Mutallab, but it's tough to tell if his father rejected him or if he was just crazy enough to reject his father.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You know, I might actually grant that some of this stuff be useful. If we could invent a device that scanned every passerby to see if they were an isolated, worldly, educated, hyper-religious kid from a rich, moderately religious family, maybe that might be worth something.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But pulling Arabs out line for special patdowns? Why? It clearly wouldn't have worked here. To make a race-based identification, you'd need a terrorist who's the right race, and &lt;b&gt;we don't have one! &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;4. Mutallab Didn't Need to be Profiled&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We caught him, didn't we?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Okay, that's weak, I know. It was partially due to his own bungling, and partially due to the Dutch guy next to him, who (and I'm speculating here) asked, "Excuse me sir, but do you know your crotch is on fire?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But seriously, Umar Abdul Mutallab never should have gotten on the plane. We should have stopped him when somebody noticed he was on a no-fly list. Or when someone noticed he had no luggage. Or when &lt;b&gt;his father called the American embassy in Nigeria and ratted him out!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seriously. I usually defend the Obama administration, but they really dropped the ball here. We had about ten different stops along the way where Mutallab could have been stopped, but we didn't take advantage of any of them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So my question is: why do we need racial profiling, when we have laws we're not following now? And somehow, we're still catching the bad guys?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6475001737499156155-4428169527796737347?l=fundie-watch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/feeds/4428169527796737347/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6475001737499156155&amp;postID=4428169527796737347&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/4428169527796737347'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/4428169527796737347'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/2009/12/ny-assembly-member-thinks-racial.html' title='NY Assembly Member Thinks Racial Profiling is A-OK'/><author><name>The Watcher</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13760421935968035169</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kw3-ctwQt9E/SwL91cESgBI/AAAAAAAAAAM/Wn2nx8LphRw/s1600-R/libertybell.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6475001737499156155.post-2959797719240747544</id><published>2009-12-25T12:35:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-25T12:35:27.450-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Merry Christmas!</title><content type='html'>Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays everybody! Or, if you're so inclined, enjoy Festivus for the Restivus!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6475001737499156155-2959797719240747544?l=fundie-watch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/feeds/2959797719240747544/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6475001737499156155&amp;postID=2959797719240747544&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/2959797719240747544'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/2959797719240747544'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/2009/12/merry-christmas.html' title='Merry Christmas!'/><author><name>The Watcher</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13760421935968035169</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kw3-ctwQt9E/SwL91cESgBI/AAAAAAAAAAM/Wn2nx8LphRw/s1600-R/libertybell.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6475001737499156155.post-8636875965534201598</id><published>2009-12-13T14:19:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-13T14:20:32.492-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Swine Flu Vaccine</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://imgsrv.85owftl.com/image/wftl/UserFiles/Image/Clips4News/swine-flu-vaccine.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://imgsrv.85owftl.com/image/wftl/UserFiles/Image/Clips4News/swine-flu-vaccine.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I got my H1N1 vaccine this past Friday. Aside from a mild tickle in my throat--which is already gone--I suffered no serious side effects. &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/05/health/05flu.html"&gt;In fact, no one did.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, I know, the vaccine hasn't been around all that long, but seriously, people, if it were dangerous, SOMETHING would have shown up by now. How long will it take before the conspiracy nuts give up and admit they were wrong? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, I don't doubt that somewhere, somebody who has six different immunodeficiencies and a diet that consists entirely of horse crap will probably get the vaccine and die. Never mind that he or she will be one out of 70 million people vaccinated, versus the 10,000 who died from actually having the disease.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bottom line: Get your freakin' inoculation and stop listening to the conspiracy nuts. Otherwise, you run the risk of getting it or passing it on to someone else.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6475001737499156155-8636875965534201598?l=fundie-watch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/feeds/8636875965534201598/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6475001737499156155&amp;postID=8636875965534201598&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/8636875965534201598'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/8636875965534201598'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/2009/12/swine-flu-vaccine.html' title='Swine Flu Vaccine'/><author><name>The Watcher</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13760421935968035169</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kw3-ctwQt9E/SwL91cESgBI/AAAAAAAAAAM/Wn2nx8LphRw/s1600-R/libertybell.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6475001737499156155.post-7951288236882733732</id><published>2009-12-05T11:00:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-05T11:01:14.228-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Keep Christ In Christmas Even if Nobody Wants it Out of Christmas</title><content type='html'>Oh, is it that time of year again? Yes, the War on Christmas has started, and it's in full swing. If you're reading this blog, you probably know what the War on Christmas is, but if you don't, it's not what it sounds like.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You see, a few years ago, Bill O'Reilly and his nutjob followers got it into their heads that saying "Happy Holidays" during the Christmas season was somehow evil. Stores that didn't use the word "Christmas" were Satanic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, those of us who aren't frothing-at-the-mouth fundies understand that there are many holidays at the end of the year; Christmas is only one of them. Some people--are you sitting down?--&lt;i&gt;don't celebrate Christmas at all!&lt;/i&gt; The horror. When some stores started to realize this, they stopped saying the "C-word" in order to help build a customer base that included those who didn't celebrate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, I've always celebrated Christmas, so it's not really a personal issue for me. But in other ways, I've come to learn what it feels like to have everyone assume that I do something that I don't. My friends in elementary school used to ask what church I went to (skipping over the question of whether I went to any at all). So yeah, I can see how it might get a little wearisome for a devout, practicing Muslim to walk through the malls every December and be bombarded by "Christmas" from all angles. When every TV show, commercial, and store in the world has big banners up for a holiday you don't celebrate, you definitely get the feeling of who's in charge and who's unwelcome.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not sure calling it a generic "holiday" would really help much. When a store is festooned with holly, tinsel, red, greens, and whites, is anyone really confused as to what they're talking about?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, right. &lt;a href="http://www.afa.net/christmaslist.asp"&gt;These idiots.&lt;/a&gt; That's right; the AFA has put out a list of companies that are "naughty" or "nice" for the holiday season, based on whether they use the dreaded C-Word. The list includes companies that are "for Christmas" and "against Christmas," which I assume means they don't use the word. It doesn't matter what the decorations look like, if it's not spelled out, it's not there. Evidently, the AFA doesn't understand the slightest subtlety.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I guess when you suffer a crippling persecution complex, anything that doesn't blatantly and repeatedly proclaim its love for your pet issue must be "against" it. Therefore, I am hereby adding the AFA to my "naughty list" for their constant and unwavering refusal to mention Burundan/Rwandan soccer star &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Gatete"&gt;Jimmy Gatete.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fact that he is the most famous soccer player in Rwanda is apparently irrelevant to the AFA, because they REFUSE TO TALK ABOUT HIM, despite his popularity with literally millions of African soccer fans. They even named him the "god of goals!" But the AFA doesn't care about that. They would rather act as if he simply didn't exist. I have no idea what Mr. Gatete did to make them hate him so much, but there it is, plain as day. Nowhere on &lt;a href="http://action.afa.net/"&gt;the AFA web site&lt;/a&gt; will you find even a single mention of Jimmy Gatete. (You will, however, find several references to &lt;a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/searchresults.aspx?cx=013271476271883857426%3Awgrzqkzqdwq&amp;amp;cof=FORID%3A11&amp;amp;q=hardcore+porn&amp;amp;sa=Go%21&amp;amp;siteurl=www.onenewsnow.com%2Fsearch.html#674"&gt;"hardcore porn."&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, of course, you could argue that people who go to the AFA website don't care about African soccer, by and large. Ha! That's no more relevant than the fact that most GAP shoppers don't care whether the word "Christmas" appears in the store! Why does the AFA refuse to capitulate to my pet issue?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Okay, fine, I'm being an ass. Christmas is far more relevant to stores than Jimmy Gatete is to AFA readers, I'll grant them that. But the point is still valid: Not mentioning something does not equal hating it, especially when there's a valid, articulable reason for not mentioning it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you want to see how far this lunacy might go, look at the &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/#/pages/Tupelo-MS/American-Family-Association/41769132859?ref=ts"&gt;AFA's Facebook page&lt;/a&gt;. There, you'll find people who are (and this time I'm not kidding) &lt;i&gt;positively fuming&lt;/i&gt; that store clerks didn't say "Merry Christmas" to them. As if store clerks were supposed to know (by ESP, maybe?) which customers celebrate Christmas and which ones don't.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's because the AFA loons needed to have their precious faith validated over and over again, everywhere they go. And really, it's because they're a bunch of childish little babies who can't handle that there exist people in the world not like them, and that those people have the right to expect stores to pay attention to them as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And of course, one of those people is Jimmy Gatete.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6475001737499156155-7951288236882733732?l=fundie-watch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/feeds/7951288236882733732/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6475001737499156155&amp;postID=7951288236882733732&amp;isPopup=true' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/7951288236882733732'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/7951288236882733732'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/2009/12/keep-christ-in-christmas-even-if-nobody.html' title='Keep Christ In Christmas Even if Nobody Wants it Out of Christmas'/><author><name>The Watcher</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13760421935968035169</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kw3-ctwQt9E/SwL91cESgBI/AAAAAAAAAAM/Wn2nx8LphRw/s1600-R/libertybell.gif'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6475001737499156155.post-5065111433731603306</id><published>2009-12-01T13:33:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-01T13:33:09.499-08:00</updated><title type='text'>WorldNetDaily Thinks It Understands Climate Change, Comedy</title><content type='html'>I don't know exactly when climate change became a political issue, but probably had something to do with Al Gore's &lt;i&gt;An Inconvenient Truth.&lt;/i&gt; Not because it showed an inconvenient truth, but because it was created and narrated by Al Gore. Ever since then, it has become an "Us-vs.-Them" issue. Liberals believe climate change is real, and a threat, because the science points to it. Conservatives don't believe it because Al Gore does.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So now WorldNutDaily has decided to &lt;a href="http://superstore.wnd.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=3457"&gt;help us all understand what climate change really is:&lt;/a&gt; the changing seasons. Oh, ho, ho, that's so clever. I didn't realize that was what was going on! I thought the Earth was getting warmer than it ever had been in recorded history! I thought we were discussing a monumental shift in the worldwide climate! Why didn't all those stiff-ass "scientists" just lay off, stop scaring everybody, and admit that global warming is really just summer coming?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wait, wait, I'll show you how right I am with this clever WorldNetDaily bumper sticker:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://superstore.wnd.com/store/images/items/W0875.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://superstore.wnd.com/store/images/items/W0875.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ha ha! Get it? Cuz climate change is just the seasons!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, that's a relief. Why bother studying meteorological science and examining computer models and projections when you can just look at a bumper sticker?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6475001737499156155-5065111433731603306?l=fundie-watch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/feeds/5065111433731603306/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6475001737499156155&amp;postID=5065111433731603306&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/5065111433731603306'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/5065111433731603306'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/2009/12/worldnetdaily-thinks-it-understands.html' title='WorldNetDaily Thinks It Understands Climate Change, Comedy'/><author><name>The Watcher</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13760421935968035169</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kw3-ctwQt9E/SwL91cESgBI/AAAAAAAAAAM/Wn2nx8LphRw/s1600-R/libertybell.gif'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6475001737499156155.post-6617115953011185656</id><published>2009-11-25T07:53:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-11-29T12:39:46.540-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Angry World War II Vet Bashes Obama, Makes No Sense</title><content type='html'>Wow, first article back and already I have hate mail. Some genius named "Mark" left a comment that I was too angry, based on my Segelstein article and something I wrote for Snopes.com. What he's referencing is a hackjob allegedly by a World War II vet named Harold Estes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, Mark never said anything I had written was wrong, just that I was angry, and "pathetic" for being so angry. He didn't (or couldn't) refute anything I said, so I guess we can assume he doesn't disagree with any of it, and is only pissed that I'm "angry." Oh well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I decided to repost what I wrote on Snopes here. It's supposedly a letter written by Mr. Estes to President Obama, which I did, indeed, tear to pieces. I'll reproduce my comments below , with &lt;a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/haroldestes.asp"&gt;the original text being available here.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;This venerable and much honored WW II vet is well known in Hawaii for his seventy-plus years of service to patriotic organizations and causes all over the country. A humble man without a political bone in his body...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Sounds like a clear indication that it's time for another one-sided, right-wing screed. Kind of like when somebody tells you "I don't want to sound like a racist but..."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;My name is Harold Estes, approaching 95 on December 13 of this year. People meeting me for the first time don't believe my age because I remain wrinkle free and pretty much mentally alert.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;That's nice. I'm sure how pretty you think you are and the fact that you're "pretty much" with it really adds to your credibility.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;One of the benefits of my age, perhaps the only one, is to speak my mind, blunt and direct even to the head man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;"Because I'm an old man, I don't need to be civil."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #660000;"&gt;I can't figure out what country you are the president of. You fly around the world telling our friends and enemies despicable lies like:&lt;br /&gt;· "We're no longer a Christian nation"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;That quote is not only taken out of context, it would be true as written. We aren't. And in case you're wondering, this is the United States of America. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #660000;"&gt;"America is arrogant" - (Your wife even announced to the world,"America is mean-spirited." Please tell her to try preaching that nonsense to 23 generations of our war dead buried all over the globe who died for no other reason than to free a whole lot of strangers from tyranny and hopelessness.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;There are 330 million people in this country. Some are good, some are bad, but most are a combination of both. Your quotes (taken out of context again) can describe many things Americans or our government do and have done, and can even do so without diminishing the good we've done. But apologizing for our sins and acknowledging that we're not perfect is a good way to restore the faith of other countries who, unlike Mr. Estes and his ilk, aren't so blinded by a love of America to see that we really can be arrogant at times. Especially when Bush was in charge.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #660000;"&gt;After 9/11 you said, "America hasn't lived up to her ideals." Which ones did you mean?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Whatever is about to follow may be either true, taken out of context, misunderstood, or just plain wrong, and I don't know which it will be just yet. However, I'm sure it will again ignore any facts that support Obama's comments, however stinging and painful (or true) they may be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;1. Was it the notion of personal liberty that 11,000 farmers and shopkeepers died for to win independence from the British ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Or maybe the ideal that no man should be a slave to another man that 500,000 men died for in the Civil War?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. I hope you didn't mean the ideal 470,000 fathers, brothers, husbands, and a lot of fellahs I knew personally died for in WWII, because we felt real strongly about not letting any nation push us around because we stand for freedom.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Mr. Estes seems to be quoting numbers of dead as if that, by itself, justified what they were fighting for. The wars we fought in served (mostly) commendable goals, but simply announcing how many people died for those goals does nothing to prove any kind of point. And yes, Mr. Estes, I'm sure the president does NOT take for granted that he's a free man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #660000;"&gt;4. I don't think you mean the ideal that says equality is better than discrimination. You know the one that a whole lot of white people understood when they helped to get you elected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I don't really have anything constructive to say about that crack. Just that you're a jackass.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #660000;"&gt;Take a little advice from a very old geezer, young man. Shape up and start acting like an American. If you don't, I'll do what I can to see you get shipped out of that fancy rental on Pennsylvania Avenue. You were elected to lead not to bow, apologize and kiss the hands of murderers and corrupt leaders who still treat their people like slaves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I had no idea that the Japanese were such awful people. Let it go, Mr. Estes. World War II ended almost 65 years ago. (Or at least try and figure out which country you're bashing and what the president actually did there.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #660000;"&gt;And just who do you think you are telling the American people not to jump to conclusions and condemn that Muslim major who killed 13 of his fellow soldiers and wounded dozens more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;He thinks he's the president, telling the American people not to jump to conclusions and condemn a Muslim as a "terrorist" before all the facts are in. Or are you a racist who thinks that "equality" you touted earlier simply doesn't apply to ragheads?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #660000;"&gt;You mean you don't want us to do what you did when that white cop used force to subdue that black college professor in Massachusetts who was putting up a fight?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yes, he means he doesn't want you to do what he did. Obama never officially apologized for the remark (he said the officer acted "stupidly"), but distanced himself from it. He then invited both of the parties to the White House to clear the air. What else do you think he should have done?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #660000;"&gt;You don't mind offending the police calling them stupid but you don't want us to offend Muslim fanatics by calling them what they are, terrorists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;The definition of terrorism is not "killing someone while Muslim."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;One more thing. I realize you never served in the military and never had to defend your country with your life but you're the Commander-in-Chief now, son. Do your job. When your battle-hardened field General asks you for 40,000 more troops to complete the mission, give them to him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I sure am glad Mr. Estes has weighed the bureaucratic issues, the finances, and the social costs to reach this conclusion. But you should at least thank the White House for sending you a copy of all the briefing paperwork so that you could properly analyze the situation to arrive at your well-studied decision.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;But if you're not in this fight to win, then get out.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Wait, I thought you just said...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;The life of one American soldier is not worth the best political strategy you're thinking of.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Now I just don't know what the hell you're talking about.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: #660000;"&gt;You're not going to restore American greatness by bringing back our bloated economy. That's not our greatest threat.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;You're not? With numbers extreme enough, the American economy could conceivably lead the way to worldwide recovery or pull the entire world back down into the worst depression ever. I'd say that alone means that the economy deserves far more attention than your petty demands about how much more we need to beat our chests and waggle our collective schlong at the rest of the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;Losing the heart and soul of who we are as Americans is our big fight now. And I sure as hell don't want to think my president is the enemy in this final battle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;This is the "final battle?" Is it because 2012 is approaching? Who's the last boss, and have we stockpiled enough herbs and magic spells to beat him?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But more seriously, if you don't want to think your president is the enemy, then stop. And you do that by not (willfully) interpreting everything he does as some kind of affront to you and your precious, fragile patriotism.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6475001737499156155-6617115953011185656?l=fundie-watch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/feeds/6617115953011185656/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6475001737499156155&amp;postID=6617115953011185656&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/6617115953011185656'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/6617115953011185656'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/2009/11/wow-first-article-back-and-already-i.html' title='Angry World War II Vet Bashes Obama, Makes No Sense'/><author><name>The Watcher</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13760421935968035169</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kw3-ctwQt9E/SwL91cESgBI/AAAAAAAAAAM/Wn2nx8LphRw/s1600-R/libertybell.gif'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6475001737499156155.post-9114699514669114906</id><published>2009-11-19T14:54:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-11-19T14:58:03.621-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Sex Ed Lies, Indeed!</title><content type='html'>So Marcia Segelstein calls herself "The Reluctant Rebel." Um, sure. Usually someone who takes action "reluctantly" needs to be spurred on by some fact that's so overwhelming, so powerful, and so repugnant that it can't be ignored and MUST be combated. Why, then, a "Reluctant Rebel" would need to resort to lies to push her agenda is beyond me. And it's even more beyond me why she seems to take such vile glee in writing her polemics if she's "reluctant" about it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, Marcia's latest diatribe is called &lt;a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=776070"&gt;"More sex ed, lies, and modern culture"&lt;/a&gt; and can be found at OneNewsNow. Lies, huh? Oh, Marcia, you have no idea.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;Listen up, parents. The goal of sex education is not to prevent unwanted pregnancies and diseases. The goal is to promote sexual freedom.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yes, I'm sure the "goal" of sex ed is to produce a country full of teenage hippies who jump in the sack and hump like rabbits. That makes perfect sense.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;That may sound outrageous, but it's the premise of Dr. Miriam Grossman's new book, You're Teaching My Child What?, and it's backed up by plenty of cold, hard facts.&amp;nbsp; Here's what she writes in the introduction: "From a review of many of today's sex ed curricula and websites, it would appear that a 'sexually healthy' individual is one who has been 'desensitized,' who is without any sense of embarrassment or shame (what some might consider 'modesty'), whose sexuality is always 'positive' and 'open,' who respects and accepts 'diverse' lifestyles, and who practices 'safer sex' with every 'partner.'&amp;nbsp; This is not about health, folks.&amp;nbsp; This is about indoctrination."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Those aren't "cold, hard facts," those are just a bunch of accusations. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;While modern sex educators are busy introducing "diverse" sexual lifestyles to their students, what they are not doing is looking out for their health.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;What does that mean, not "looking out for their health?" Does Segelstein really expect us to believe that comprehensive sex ed doesn't teach kids about sexual health?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;Dr. Grossman asks the logical question:&amp;nbsp; "Why don't sex educators emphasize that casual sex and multiple partners is a health hazard?"&amp;nbsp; Why don't they make it clear that engaging in sexual behavior with someone means risking exposure to the bacteria, viruses, and full-blown sexually transmitted diseases of each and every one of his or her previous partners.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&amp;nbsp;Oh noes!!!11 Sex ed doesn't teach our children about STDs! That's terrible!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;task=view&amp;amp;id=655&amp;amp;Itemid=177"&gt;It's also a complete lie.&lt;/a&gt; Look, it's right there in the chart from Advocates for Youth. Seriously, Marcia, if you're going to peddle this "abstinence-only" crap, at least try to get some of your facts straight. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;Condoms are like a magic wand in the world of sex education.&amp;nbsp; Students hear endlessly about practicing "safer sex" by using condoms.&amp;nbsp; But Grossman points out what many aren't told: that most teenagers don't use condoms correctly and, she writes, "Even with proper use, both pregnancy and infection can occur."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Which is why, according to Advocates for Youth, comprehensive sex ed "[t]eaches that abstinence from sexual intercourse is the most effective method of preventing unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases, including HIV."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;So students are, in effect, encouraged to take a calculated risk, a risk with enormous ramifications.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;"Encouraged?" Really? Cite me please, a comprehensive sex ed program that encourages kids to have sex.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;In my last column, I wrote about SIECUS, the Sex Information and Education Council of the U.S., and the provider of sex ed curricula to schools from coast to coast.&amp;nbsp; Without any basis in scientific fact, sex ed materials produced by SIECUS promote the idea that it is "healthy" for kids to explore their sexuality. "That," writes Grossman, "was never true, and it's surely not true now, with genital bacteria and viruses infecting another young person every 3.5 seconds."&amp;nbsp; Sexually transmitted diseases are epidemic: one in four teenage girls has one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&amp;nbsp;Well, that sort of depends on what you mean by "explore their sexuality," doesn't it? How can you say it is or isn't "healthy" to do something if you talk in vague terms about what it is? I tried to do a search to find out what Marcia was talking about (because God knows, fundies never cite anything), but couldn't find anything. Probably because I don't know what I'm looking for.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SIECUS does state, that it's healthy for there to be an &lt;a href="http://siecus.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Feature.showFeature&amp;amp;featureid=1784&amp;amp;pageid=518&amp;amp;parentid=514"&gt;open, educational dialogue&lt;/a&gt; between kids, educators, and parents about sex, tailored to the kids' age and background. That, by the way, comes from a scientifically-conducted study. Sorry, Marcia, you fail again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;And don't expect school sex ed programs to back up parents when it comes to moral and religious teachings.&amp;nbsp; Grossman writes that many sex ed instructors encourage students "to question what they've been taught at home and at church," and to develop their own views on the subject of sex.&amp;nbsp; It not only undermines parental authority, it has the potential to promote dangerous behavior in an age group already eager and willing to break rules.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I'd like to see a cite for which program teaches kids to question their parents and churches. Then I'd like to see an explanation of how, exactly, you get a curriculum to agree with the church considering that it would be 1) not scientifically accurate and 2) unconstitutional. Of course, the degrees of constitutionality and scientific accuracy would vary from one church to another, so I'd like to know just what church Marcia and Grossman are referring to. They see no reason to enlighten us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;Organizations such as SIECUS, Planned Parenthood, and Advocates for Youth provide information and links with sexual information specifically for teenagers.&amp;nbsp; Almost without exception, the links meant to help teens decide whether to have sex say it's a question only they can answer.&amp;nbsp; If the decision involved which foods to eat, make no mistake that there would be no government-funded websites, or parent-tolerated websites, which recommended that teens decide for themselves whether to eat healthy or unhealthy foods.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;The US Department of Agriculture maintains a page on the &lt;a href="http://www.mypyramid.gov/"&gt;Food Guide Pyramid.&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;On the homepage, in bold letters, on the center, are the words &lt;b&gt;One size doesn't fit all.&lt;/b&gt; The site then includes comprehensive information about choosing the foods that are right for you. Kind of blows that theory out of the water, huh Marcia?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not to mention, food and sex aren't even &lt;i&gt;close&lt;/i&gt; to analogous.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;SIECUS provides a link, under the heading "Adolescent Sexuality," to a website run by Columbia University called Go Ask Alice!&amp;nbsp; Most parents would be appalled by the information the website provides, and the encouragement it gives students to explore their sexuality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Cite, please, for what "most parents" would feel about something. Here's a helpful hint to get started: if you're writing for a reactionary fundie website, you probably aren't qualified to unilaterally state what "most parents" want.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;Each week, Go Ask Alice has a special theme.&amp;nbsp; The week I checked the website for this column, the theme was "Porn."&amp;nbsp; When "asked" where to find erotic videos that appeal to women, "Alice" suggests names of directors, producers and actresses to look for, and goes on to say that the process of finding porn and erotica you like "can be enjoyable and can help you explore and understand your likes and dislikes."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Well, since &lt;i&gt;Go Ask Alice&lt;/i&gt; is affiliated with Columbia University, it's more geared toward college students than teens. I'm not sure what any of this has to do with sex ed programs, anyway. Are you trying to demonize SIECUS with this somehow? Apparently, Marcia believes that since kids may be taking a sex ed class run by SIECUS, they may also feel some need to look up SIECUS on the web. And if they do that, they might click "Adolescent Sexuality," and then they might see a link to &lt;i&gt;Go Ask Alice,&lt;/i&gt; which they may then click, and by chance see the section on porn! And if they do that, they may learn that there's porn on the Internet! NO!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Except, &lt;i&gt;Go Ask Alice&lt;/i&gt; isn't linked under &lt;a href="http://siecus.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Page.viewPage&amp;amp;pageId=620&amp;amp;parentID=477"&gt;Adolescent Sexuality.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;Nowhere does it say that viewing pornography can become addictive and detrimental to one's future sexual health.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;No, it doesn't say that because it's not true. There's &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_addiction"&gt;no scientific consensus at all&lt;/a&gt; as to whether "pornography addiction" even exists, let alone how it works, what its nature is, and how it affects one person versus another.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;Perusing the Q&amp;amp;A section for teens on the Planned Parenthood website, I found this point of view posing as an answer:&amp;nbsp; "It's perfectly normal for a girl to find other girls attractive or be turned on by them."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&amp;nbsp;And we know that's not true because it doesn't agree with the Bible!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;In almost every other aspect of school life, children are encouraged to use self-discipline.&amp;nbsp; It's expected of them in all kinds of areas, from academics to athletics.&amp;nbsp; But self-restraint isn't a valued commodity in most sex ed curricula.&amp;nbsp; Nor are parents.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Since when?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;When it comes to their children's health, parents are expected to be authority figures.&amp;nbsp; Most parents teach their children that smoking cigarettes, for instance, is unhealthy and tell them in no uncertain terms that they are not to do it.&amp;nbsp; If a health teacher at school taught children that wanting to smoke is normal, and that kids should explore their desire to do it, parents would probably storm the school. But when it comes to sexual health, it's quite the opposite.&amp;nbsp; Children are taught that their sexual urges are "natural."&amp;nbsp; They're taught that what's important about exploring those desires is to be as safe as possible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Once again, false analogies. Smoking is not sex. Sex is a natural biological process that is, in fact, healthy when done carefully. Smoking is inhaling tobacco fumes into your lungs, and will give you cancer and emphysema while not doing much at all to make you healthier.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Besides, Marcia's twisting the words of the sex ed programs here. They don't say "Sex is natural and normal! Go do it!" They teach that it's natural and normal, so don't feel ashamed about it, but be informed and be careful. Anti-smoking classes do pretty much the same thing when they teach about peer pressure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #660000;"&gt;Parents' views, based on religion, morality, or science, have no role.&amp;nbsp; Children aren't advised to turn to their parents for advice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Really? I guess that's why Advocates For Youth has a page called &lt;a href="http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;task=view&amp;amp;id=108&amp;amp;Itemid=206"&gt;Parents' Sex Ed Center.&lt;/a&gt; Because they don't want parents involved.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't know why Marcia keeps coming back to "religion," though. It's no more legal to preach the Bible in school now than it was five paragraphs ago. And "science" has no role either? Marcia, I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer. Just shut up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The piece ends with some exhortations to parents that I don't really need to get into. But Marcia, next time you feel the need to call someone out on their "lies," do us all a favor, will you? Start with your own.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6475001737499156155-9114699514669114906?l=fundie-watch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/feeds/9114699514669114906/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6475001737499156155&amp;postID=9114699514669114906&amp;isPopup=true' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/9114699514669114906'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6475001737499156155/posts/default/9114699514669114906'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fundie-watch.blogspot.com/2009/11/sex-ed-lies-indeed.html' title='Sex Ed Lies, Indeed!'/><author><name>The Watcher</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13760421935968035169</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kw3-ctwQt9E/SwL91cESgBI/AAAAAAAAAAM/Wn2nx8LphRw/s1600-R/libertybell.gif'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6475001737499156155.post-6629510735115129275</id><published>2009-11-17T11:35:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-11-17T19:58:07.579-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Welcome Back!</title><content type='html'>Welcome to the new Fundie Watch! I'm back, bringing you more wackiness from the Religious Right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If this is your first time here, I'll give you a little rundown of what to expect. I'm a liberal, feminist, and atheist, but have no problem with conservatives, men, or religious people (and in fact, I am a dude.) I believe in live and let live, but when you start trying to legislate religion, I get a little miffed. I, unlike the fundies, am aware that the First Amendment contains both an Establishment Clause and a Free Exercise clause, and I'll defend them both.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What else? I respect our troops, but don't respect war. I don't disrespect anyone's religion, but am vehemently opposed to anyone trying to use their religion as a club. That includes in government, in school, and in the private lives of people who don't want it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, as a lawyer by training, I tend to focus on legal topics and analysis. Don't worry; anything that needs explaining, I'll explain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So stick around. 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